They really dislike me, which makes sense, I just attacked them. Key to the Secret Fealty feature is loyalty, the standard by whose Stellaris measures your subject empire’s devotion. 1 monthly loyalty but the vassal has -300 opinion of you and pleged secret fealty you might get a breakdown of: from agreement +1. ) and your holdings are capped at +4 (-2 for 3. Thread starter firenze419;. And winning requires invading and beating up the overlord empire because a status quo peace isn't enough. Stellaris - Loyalty matter before Vassalization. 【Stellaris】 (メモ)雑多な解析内容のまとめ. As a warmongering player, I deal with this in the following ways: Be aggressive early on, send science ships to find other factions ASAP and rush to invade my neighbours before they team up. Turns out it was a moot point, as I was looking it up (I. Holdings Overlord comes with a plethora of additional holding building options, as well as the ability to build multiple Holdings in a single Vassal’s space. Go to Stellaris r/Stellaris • by ButNoDamageCore. I'm in my first game since overlord, and it definitely seems they haven't integrated the secret. 59. Promptly upon victory, without renegotiating anything with them, I got an announcement that the subject was being converted to the Bulwark subject type, something. 终止秘密效忠 （ break secret fealty ） （附属国） 提议秘密宣誓效忠 （ propose secret fealty ） 结束秘密效忠 （ end secret fealty ） （其他国家） 若附属国甲向某其他国家乙秘密宣誓效忠，则乙获得对前者宗主国丙的宣战理由 附属国的秘密宣誓效忠 。And aside of secret fealty, which is secret (duh) most of the other things like guaranteed independence, defensive pact or a federation are visible if you pay attention. Seems like that shouldn’t be allowed but it happened to me the other day. r/Stellaris • I wish the game had cinematic cut scenesPreviously in Stellaris, subjugation was rarely a more compelling option than simple conquest, and being subjugated often essentially meant a permanent decline of your empire and a “Game Over” screen in your near future. A Military Junta (Egal+Xenophile+Militarist) on the other side of the galaxy got a strange CB on me that I dont recognize: Secret Fealty From Subject. Hey, I got in a ratehr complicated situation. The bug was that the defender in a war could use the secret fealty casus belli for their war goal, which they are not supposed to be able to do (the two sides are already set, with the. Do note this only happens if you select the. You have to be a subject of another empire. Secret Fealty 2x. Self-Defense:. May 13, 2017 3. Method 2: Demanding Vassalization. I had a vassal nation pledge secret fealty to me across the galaxy as we shared an explored wormhole. Otherwise it should remain secret. They can and will pledge secret fealty and get you enmeshed in an unwinnable war once they have anything like equivalent power to their overlords. I was easily able to overwhelm their overlord. " expats. An ai pledged a secret fealty to me and thats how i got a subject as fanatic purifiers. #6. You have to swear secret fealty to a different empire. Half the rival subjects assisted. 238 1. Specialized Vassals. I established a Hegemony federation with another empire and their singular vassal, gave my victory rival a stupidly generous subjugation offer to counteract their -800 for being an overlord, then immediately released them and all four of their vassals (which were now MY vassals) before the month rolled over and. If you can’t go to the declare war screen at all, it’s likely because you have a truce. What can I do to make the deal more appealing?Common knowledge that Stellaris players have a reputation for being war criminals and doing many kinds of questionable things, but have you ever witnessed the ai empires doing such things?. If you've got an alliance with the last independent empires in the galaxy and ask them to join a war. If they really have all pledged fealty then it’s time for battle. Previously in Stellaris, subjugation was rarely a more compelling option than simple conquest, and being subjugated often essentially meant a permanent decline of your empire and a “Game Over” screen in your near future. It needs to be thoroughly reworked for sure. But if you're worried about taking everyone on at once, this way. Like I said I tried imperial rebuke. 2. However, Overlords minimum intel on subject is 40. End Secret Fealty. Have another megacorp putting offices on your planets. In Stellaris' Overlord update, a significant addition known as Secret Fealty alters your interactions with vassals, potentially leading to severe consequences if mishandled. 终止秘密效忠 （ break secret fealty ） （附属国） 提议秘密宣誓效忠 （ propose secret fealty ） 结束秘密效忠 （ end secret fealty ） （其他国家） 若附属国甲向某其他国家乙秘密宣誓效忠，则乙获得对前者宗主国丙的宣战理由 附属国的秘密宣誓效忠 。 And aside of secret fealty, which is secret (duh) most of the other things like guaranteed independence, defensive pact or a federation are visible if you pay attention. If you win, they're. Add a Comment. I’m currently trying to get secret fealty from one of my neighbors in order to steal him from his current overlord, but (aside from being in a federation), the biggest thing preventing it is that he doesn’t like his vassal type has a tributary. • 1 yr. If you choose secret fealty as the CB then you AND the vassal will declare war on the overlord so you should make sure to help the vassal build ships after declaring the war. I guess after you become the new overlord you would just release them as a subject, but wouldn't be surprised this they find a new overlord in most. End Secret Fealty. I have successfully goaded them into attacking me by depleting. So as I was starting a war with their overlord I noticed an option to pick "Allegiance War" in order to 'free' them and make them my vassal. Stellaris Dev Diary #253 - Three in One 3. Vassals B1 and B2 gave me Secret Fealty and after couple of years of preparations I declared war on empire B using Secret Fealty as wargoal. Then you have a short time to declare war. If an empire starts a war with either of the paired wargoals the defender will automatically use the other wargoal and cannot selection another one. Ratings- A= I would get destroyed B=Very close fight C=A hard fight D=Evenly matched E=Easy fight F=I would destroy them. Stellaris. 无对应宣战借口时隐藏. This permits a War of Allegiance - a new war goal. Go to Stellaris r/Stellaris • by UnholyDemigod. "Liberate" them. Secret Fealty is for you to declare war to release them, not them to declare war to be released. That's it, what the title says. I. it is a secret fealty they will join on their lords side even if they starts a. 4 'Cepheus' Patch Notes and more! Thread starter Obidobi; Start date May 5, 2022; Hello everyone!. I had an empire swearing Secret Fealty to me, and then they suddenly got this new -800 modifier due to "Research Lost". We both are pretty powerful so I'm not gonna let this opportunity pass to. Stellaris. Key to the Secret Fealty feature is loyalty, aforementioned standard by whose Stellaris measures your select empire’s devotion. Avoid migration treaties like the devil avoids holy water. In an Allegiance War, you seek to wrest control of the vassals that have pledged Secret Fealty to you, and they will join in on the attack on their former Overlord. . I incidentally started up a new save to get Tinker, Tailor, Solider, Blorg, but found myself close to a spiritualist empire who was much stronger than myself. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos Workshop News Guides Reviews. 1. If you support independence, you can't make them a vassal, cause they wouldn't be independent. I started a secret fealty war to “check” an empire trying to take over the galaxy and it turned into 4v5 royale. The issue is the ai never declares itMy vassal (who I won through a Secret Fealty / War) has been my vassal for several years. You must quickly find a suitable empire, since time is limited and your overlord after the civil war in his systems will offer you freedom regardless. Even looking at their Empire screen only shows they have fealty towards me, but doesn't say they are a minion of X But if you're lower than that, your best bet it so wait for a war between both blocks. You have to be a subject of another empire 2. Whoever you pledge secret fealty to gets a CB against your overlord to steal you. A Democratic Crusader empire that is hostile to me as I'm playing as Driven Assimilators has pledged secret fealty to me. it's overall a positive since it forces the player to find solutions other than a doom stack in those galaxies like secret fealty, taking over the federation, regularly bullying AIs earlier in the game to prevent harmony, etc. (1st question here: how?) I support. If the defender wins the attacking subjects will gain +5 Monthly Loyalty for 5 years and cannot pledge Secret Fealty during that time. ;-) ironsasquash • 21 days ago. Another empire's bulwark declared secret fealty to me. 1-Orion (a6c5) What version do you use? GoG What expansions do you have installed? Do you have mods enabled? No Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible. In an Allegiance War, you seek to wrest control of the vassals that have pledged Secret Fealty to you, and they will. Xean. It wouldn't respond well. Join. . 维持侍奉. . Just realised AI doesn't declare secret fealty war for 150 years. If they have bad relations with their overlord but don't have the military to break free themselves then the AI starts looking for empires to pledge secret fealty to, and they mainly just. If you use this CB, the former subject will join your side in the war. Allegiance Wars - The Pledge Secret Fealty diplomatic action has been added, which allows subject empires to secretly plot with a new overlord. Primitive civilization event chains. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User. This will reduce the likelihood of AI's starting in federations etc. 2 has been released with a handful of bugfixes. Umm, no, you only have 3 planets, I'm not feeding you 20% rss. So - power blocks. I'm guessing "Meet the New Boss" involves the new "Secret Fealty" mechanic. They pledged Secret Fealty to me so I declared war on their overlord and won. I attacked them; thier overlord is at war with me, but it's a defensive war for them. Read this post on the Paradox forums. An Allegiance war is a war declared by a third Empire, where at least one of the Subjects has sworn Secret Fealty to that empire, and this third Empire fights the Subject(s)’ Overlord for control of the subject, with the subject’s help. This is probably the weirdest diplomatic thing I have seen. But yes, that's definitely an eye opening moment for Stellaris veterans when AI finally 'git gud'. How you make your empire strong enough to deal with that conflict is up to you. Does this mean they can't ever, or just for the 5 years they have the "Failed Betrayal" modifier? Showing 1 - 1 of 1 comments. You have to be a subject of someone. Previously in Stellaris, subjugation was rarely a more compelling option than simple conquest, and being subjugated often essentially meant a permanent decline of your empire and a “Game Over” screen in your near future. In Stellaris’ Overlord update, a significant addition known as Secret Fealty alters your interactions with vassals, potentially leading to severe consequences if mishandled. Note: the save and screenshots are from a much later point in the game due to initially brushing it off, but later being instructed to submit a bug report by Alfray Stryke when talking about the situation on the discord. Secret Fealty in Stellaris is a new feature initiated because part the the Overlord how, a short addition to your relationship with vassals that does potentially dire consequences should you badly respective relationships. Lay a claim on one of the enemy subject's systems with a planet inside. When I conquered my first FE. It just dumps buffs and resources until it eventually rebels. Even though I destroyed all enemy fleets and armies and also conquered 89% of their systems/planets, they have been at 100% war exhaustion for at least 20 years now, I can't achive my wargoal and take over my enemies subjects, because. An AI empire, lets call it "empire B", have vassals B1-B5. Report. I. Stellaris. In this s. Like, I could easily take both. 4. Allegiance Wars - The Pledge Secret Fealty diplomatic action has been added, which allows subject empires to secretly plot with a new overlord. You also have to demand vassalization first. Secret fealty means that they would rather serve you than their current overlord. . A large planet behind a glowy green shield. I'm not going for that kind of war though as they are a Bulwark with 50 planets. Can be used in reference to other such entities or metaphorically for concepts. Can someone explain secret fealty to me? I’m in a run right now where my empire has known about the scourge coming for 10,000 years, I won’t go into the details about the whole thing as this would be lot to read, but the Jist is that we set up in a 2 entrance point cluster, which are. At the end of the war, the AI empire. Tributaries only give +1. ╔ My Twitch channel: Website with my Schedule: Stellaris is a 4x grand strategy space game. The empire you're pledging secret fealty to can start a war with your current overlord, and if they win, they will be your new overlord. 6. Lay a claim on one of the enemy subject's systems with a planet inside. Stellaris. A loyal vassal isn't going to pledge secret fealty to another empire, or try to break away. Stellaris Real-time strategy Strategy video game Gaming comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A straga27 Necrophage •. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos Workshop News Guides Reviews. 6K votes, 68 comments. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the 4X grand strategy game Stellaris by Paradox Development Studio. Per page: 15 30 50. I already set my vassalage policy to benevolent, but I can change it if I have to. Diplomatic Action. So integration must have some significant advantages over direct conquest in order to be justifable. #3. 2. Then the fully occupied systems become your vassal while the rest stays under your enemies control and gets the 10 year cease fire. Go to Stellaris r/Stellaris • by thatonemethhead. Now there was a federation that we were opposing and they were basicly the 2nd AI in line for strength. In this s. WTF StellarisSeize all planets that have your founder pops on them. Confused as to why it's necessary, but its whatever. 6 “Orion” update. To win a secret fealty war you have to essentially conquer every single system and planet of your enemies (the overlord empire and any allies on his side of the. Stellaris Dev Diary #253 - Three in One 3. Alternatively, you can convince the vassal to give you Secret Fealty. It is because the AI does not build planets for stability as a factor. If you use that CB - AND ONLY IF YOU USE THAT CB - any vassals of that overlord that have sworn secret fealty to you, will join you in the war against the overlord, even if they would otherwise join their overlord. Thread starter youstas; Start date Jul 3, 2022; Jump to latest Follow Reply. You might expect a cold war or even hot war situation once the galaxy is divided in 2-3 power blocks, but stellaris just doesnt seem to favor that. You have to swear secret. Copy. Wait for your moment. 1. Tributaries give + 1. Secret Fealty War doesn't seem to work. Great! It gives me an excellent spot to conquer against a rival. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the 4X grand strategy…The "Form Secret Alliance" interaction would allow empires who are both subjects of the same overlord to come to an agreement to throw off the yoke and become independent. Overlords can now build a holding on Subject Planets. Also your freedoms will be listed in your agreement, you have some other restrictions I'm sure but I cannot remember them. Secret Fealty (Proposed with Green Check Mark - with 188 as a value score I believe), then Accepted, then Immediately Broken by the A. Shinobi273 Jul 9, 2022 @ 7:50pm. 59. Start an allegiance war with an overlord that has at least two subjects (one of them proposing secret fealty) 2. You have the perfect start. Be a vassal to someone, declare secret fealty to another empire and win the special CB they get to become the other empires vassal. I can't win my secret fealty war, so I am planning on a Status Quo. In my latest game I've actually had quite a few ai swear secret fealty to me. 0% Empire Size Penalty Opinion modifiers for loyalty are nerfed. More Help. This is *the* most insane start to a Stellaris run I've ever gotten. I'm a cat person, but I for one, will pledge secret fealty to our new canine overlord . The default subsidy would collapse my economy!AFAIK Stellaris does not currently support any invitations to war once they have started; new code may be needed for that (rather than just script changes). I can't move my fleet through the wormhole. They either left or were kicked out afterwards. Easiest is rivaling them and then using the imperial rebuke CB or whatever. hart30 Field Marshal. -- although as. The tooltip is telling me that they would accept such a proposal. Phoenix_Anon 1 yr. In one of their systems there was a shielded world. R5: I want to take another empire's vassal so they cant win the gaem with vassal points, but they dont want to take the fealty due to "subject type" and agreement terms. The remainder of the german empire then made a total unconditional surrender of all remaining territory to the western. When I took the shield down my people found a vault with technology. Thread starter Chuunibyou Imouto; Start date Jan 9, 2023; Jump to latest Follow Reply Menu We have updated our. Even if they are already in a war against someone. Not sure about regular empires but an overlord with full (100) diplo intel on their vassal will find out any secret agreements. Then Empire C the second Vassal of empire A. 9 ‘Caelum’ Patch Notes, and Ask Us Anything!Basically, when someone swears secret Fealty, you get a CB on their overlord. La clave de la función Secret Fealty es Lealtad, que es cómo Stellaris mide la lealtad de sus imperios afiliados. DaAndMan. . Renegotiate your agreement, making yourself a bulwark or scholarium. Secret Feudalism in Stellaris be a new feature introduced as part of the Overlord download, a small addition to your relationship using vassals that has eventually disastrous consequential should you mismanage you relationships. If you win, they're all your subjects. 防御方可用战争目标：. 2)Once the allegiance is pledged have the non-vassal declare war on the current overlord with the secret pledge casus beli. He's still in my Fed, he tries to steal the. Best. I even tried ending fealty to the United Jusstkan and then trying allegiance war, but not good, they all still side against me When a vassal swears Secret Fealty to another Empire, it's hidden on their diplomacy screen. Wouldn't you know it, the damned enclave up and disappeared causing my shroud beacon construction to halt. #2. Jun 25, 2022. Click the "Catapult Fleet" option from the icon bar. Allegiance Wars - The Pledge Secret Fealty diplomatic action has been added, which allows subject empires to secretly plot with a new overlord. You can pledge secret fealty without owning Overlord, just like how the vassalization menu was updated Reply More posts you may like. to maybe one day fight off that overlord. Go to Stellaris r/Stellaris. It means you can fight their overlord for their loyalty, and they will join your side in that war. "They may also swear Secret Fealty to one of your rivals in hopes that they’ll be able to follow them in an Allegiance War. However, the option to actually send the proposal is grayed out and it says that this empire is "pledging fealty to another empire. Contents 1 Envoys 2 Diplomatic. In the tip, it says that the empire I have secret fealty from can't create a. It just dumps buffs and resources until it eventually rebels. Stellaris. If you attack them using that CB, the subject switches to your side in that war. There is just one problem. I declared war on the rival overlord empire to convert the subjects to become my subjects. But beware: vassals now have Loyalty, and disloyal Vassals may swear Secret Fealty to another empire — and if you give them the opportunity, you may find yourself in an Allegiance War. Here are the solutions: Destroy them. I believe you can declare a war and the traitor vassal (s) will join you. Then, as soon as you start a war they revoke their secret fealty offer and leave you fighting their liege for them. That is the secret fealty. 418K subscribers in the Stellaris community. Secret Fealty 2x. 9. But okay. 5, divided loyalty -3. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos Workshop News Guides Reviews. Secret Fealty (Proposed with Green Check Mark - with 188 as a value score I believe), then Accepted, then Immediately Broken by the A. and really, Stellaris on the whole, is to facilitate the. Stellaris. They are all fairly close to me but their overlord is all the way on the other side of the galaxy. In terms of why relative power should be a factor from a strictly game mechanical term - having a renegade vassal who can overwhelm you is a really dangerous diplomatic situation to be in with this game. 仅占领. Previously in Stellaris, subjugation was rarely a more compelling option than simple conquest, and being subjugated often essentially meant a permanent decline of your empire and a “Game Over” screen in your near future. " I'm assuming this means they have secret fealty with someone else. Stellaris Wiki Active Wikis. It's not possible to achieve war goals. Does anyone know exactly what that is? Is it because they have a Research Pact that would break of war was called? Maybe their overlord shifted to giving them research?. Only possible way is mods. I'm not 100% but I'd assume. 4. Mar 29 @. Them declaring war on their overlord means they are fighting for their liberation and dont want to be a vasall at all, so. Secret fealty gives the outside empire a CB to attack the overlord for "ownership" of the vassal in question. Only way to sustain Secret Fealty from them is if the opposing overlord puts them under very bad terms with negative monthly loyalty. Envoys are minor leaders that can be assigned to perform various diplomatic tasks. Note that the empire pledging secret fealty will NOT join your side if you use other CBs. Break Secret Fealty. So legally, it'd be the same as New mexico and Texas suddenly telling the federal government they belong to mexico now. They may also swear Secret Fealty to one of your rivals in hopes that they’ll be able to follow them in an. 对应的宣战借口：. Overlords can now build a holding on Subject Planets. My last one I filled by going on a secret fealty war , while I was overrunning his overlord I stopped off to abduct a planet or 2 of his overlords pops which doubled to ensure that not only were his planets devestated, they were now also sitting at like 2 pop. I attacked them; thier overlord is at war with me, but it's a defensive war for them. It's a shame because Stellaris is my favourite paradox game and it has so many features I just love to play around with. Them declaring war on their overlord means they are fighting for. Then suddenly the war ends when we are at 38% exhaustion because my crappy secret liege surrenders. This permits a War of Allegiance - a new war goal that allows empires to fight other Overlords for control of subjects that have pledged secret fealty to them. Have that empire declare war using the secret Fealty CB and win making you a vassal of the new empire. In the middle of a secret fealty war that I am leading, the nation I declared war on behalf of (State of Dabul) has now declared me a rival. , where I believe this specific empire is a one system enlightened species. More Help. lose 1 bordering planet to AI, AI imposes his ideology on released nation (who isn't a vassal)??? 3. 1: Secret fealty agreements are on a timer with the AI, and they'll break them on their own accord if nothing comes out of it after a couple years. Stellaris. . PSA: Apparently Hive Mind Pops Can't Be Made Biotrophies, So This Is Awkward Now. Gotta Subjugate Them All. Just ok. Disloyal vassals may swear allegiance to opposing empires, and you likely won’t know it happened until it’s too late (hence being called “secret”). the catapult involves a few steps. Make sure you have claims tho and don't waste an opportunity on a humiliation war. 4 'Cepheus' Patch Notes and more! Thread starter Obidobi; Start date May 5, 2022; Hello everyone!. Divide Airzones and/or Make Air Missions Paintable - Another HoI4 suggestion thread. So my question is 1) am I correct with that assumption? I finally was able to swear secret fealty to another empire in 2212. Otherwise, it doesn't matter how much your subjects hate you. It's a CB that you can take to go to war with their overlord and if you win you become the new overlord of whoever pledged secret fealty to you. What are you supposed to do here? I got dragged into a war by a secret fealty, which is fine. Allegiance Wars - The Pledge Secret Fealty diplomatic action has been added, which allows subject empires to secretly plot with a new overlord. Using the catapult involves a few steps. So now we have this West/East germany situation where there's a proxy war going on between two super powers via their country. What are we going to do? All that seems to do is to increase the number of war clothes on both sides, and the "Complete war destinations" button is still a red X. 200 stars, 6 AI. Here I was building a shroud beacon in a system I spent 600+ influence to claim next to vassal I worked so hard to win a secret fealty war when the Prethoryn arrived. You need to be Superior (they are Inferior or Pathetic to you). A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the 4X grand strategy…I gained the secret fealty of 5+ subjects of my primary rival empire. 1. Our warscore is through the roof, but my AI ally (who started the war) is not calling an. But beware: vassals now have Loyalty, and disloyal Vassals may swear Secret Fealty to another empire — and if you give them the opportunity, you may find yourself in an Allegiance War. But don't worry, if you take care of their loyalty, they will became friendly again. I had a quick question about the secret fealty system. I've been harming relations and sending insults their way in hopes they would declare war for a few hundred years, but no dice. Stellaris - AI of different species who hates my guts pledged secret fealty to my fanatical purifier empire. A TERRIBLE Stellaris Ethics Tier ListHow do Ethics compare to each other in Stellaris? This Tier List video will answer your question!My Patreon: Vassals and Secret Fealty aren't really working well at the moment. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos Workshop News Guides Reviews. #1 Demonking May 8 @ 8:04pm Secret fealty usually means they're already under the rule of another empire. If you win, the empire that pledged secret fealty to you becomes your vessel. 3. But beware: vassals now have Loyalty, and disloyal Vassals may swear Secret Fealty to another empire — and if you give them the opportunity, you may find yourself in an Allegiance War. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos Workshop News Guides Reviews. The empire you're pledging secret fealty to can start a war with your current overlord, and if they win, they will be your new overlord. The others would usually say no, and you repeated that until the amount of failed votes added up and made everyone hate each other. Does anyone know details on that? We're both independent, and he's in charge of a Martial Alliance (Military Federation). You have to swear secret fealty to someone else. 297 votes, 36 comments. "After a trial run in the real conditions of Prague public transport, we will already know to what extent hydrogen technology can replace diesel buses in Prague and be an alternative to electric vehicles. If the vassal so chooses, they can then declare a war of independence against their overlord and you will join them in that war. The clashes have been epic and I finally broke the oppositions back and am now cleaning up and just now at 70% exhaustion. However, I was disappointed and more than a little annoyed to find out that, depending on your agreement with your subject with regarding war declarations, they. Doing my first run as Rogue Servitors. They may also swear Secret Fealty to one of your rivals in hopes that they’ll be able to follow them in an. In my current game as the emperor, I was able to take territory by having another empire declare secret fealty to me, and going to war to make them my vassal, then took a bunch of territory from their liege and allies. This is my last game. I declared war on another Empire to take over its Subjects, who swore a secret fealty to me. Depending on your agreement, they might need to join you in their war with you. the top number is a dead giveaway they will refuse it. Some empire did assist them in one war and I destroyed their fleets as well. To do this method, whoever you’re trying to make your Vassal must be at peace. How I would do in a fight against certain characters (Part 2) 1 / 20. MegaCorp Improvements as both Overlords and Subjects. Showing 1 - 3 of 3 comments. I'm in a war to liberate an empire (Empire A) from vassalage (secret fealty, yea they will still be vassals afterwards but my vassals - which is something completly different) The enemy also has another vassal (Empire B), who was part of this war in the beginning - fighting me and my ally - and than left the war. I conquer half the rival's empire because the federation conquers the other half. With my non-specialist vassals I can choose between vassal, tributary and specialist vassal, but when the vassal starts with a specialization the only option I get is to switch them to another specialization. I am the strongest empire so it isn't a secret fealty and they have no mercs or ships of any kind #2. Secret Fealty Does Not Like Subject Type. One of his vassals, after secretly declaring fealty to me, declared war against his Overlord and it was on like Donkey Kong. Stellaris Dev Diary #253 - Three in One 3. I have tried 3 games now for this achievement and can never get an empire to rival the strength of the one i make my overlord even if they are weak something happens to empires around them causing them to lose strength like wars or my overlord takes a 2nd vassal so no can ever beat them. Edit: As another commenter mentioned, you can also declare a subjugation war on the overlord and gain everybody.